True Nature of Survival

If you are not eating right now take moment and watch this video of monkey eating gazelle.

It feels very wrong for most people to look at this. This shows how much we are out of touch with nature. Most people want to eat meat but not kill it themselves for example. What happens to gazelle is not good and not bad, its nature. It simply is.

When you find yourself in survival situation you get quickly in touch with nature again, and nature is cruel and concept of fairness does not exist.

It is hard to be prepared for that before you experience it. But understanding how nature really is and that we only live in soft bubble protected from true face of nature, is a first step.

I talk a lot in interview in my course about events that lead to total collapse. Here is one more experience I want to share.

When SHTF started, in the time when great majority of us thought that what was going on around us is something like temporary rioting that got a bit out of control, city services still worked in some parts of the city, everybody was waiting for madness to stop.

In that short period before s. hit the fan with full force, people usually lost their lives because they did not recognize situation.

People were out rioting, stealing, fighting. But all that was still like “moderate”.

At that moment people still were “inside” the system, so we all were trying to hide more or less when looting was going on in neighborhood. Police were still arresting people and trying to control things. People were shooting each other yes, but it was not yet like full scale shooting and violence, mostly people were scaring each other with shootings.

One of my friends was involved in shootings in those days, after looting some stores, he got wounded. Wound was not too dangerous, he was shot in foot.

As I said, most of the city services were still working and trying to bring order to that chaos. City ambulances came and picked him up and they rushed to hospital with him.

About one kilometer from place where he got picked up, the group of people that actually shot him stopped the ambulance on some improvised barricade, first shot the driver and then killed my friend in the back of the ambulance. They killed him little bit slower than driver, and more painfully, they used knives. We got there a bit later, too late.

Now this story may sound confusing to you, you may say “it happens in war” but for 95% of folks at that time it was not war, it was something like violent rioting, and those 95% of folks still trusted the system, had trust in police and government that they are going to restore law and order. People still trusted that ambulances are like “protected” and nobody will stop them, not to mention shoot at one.

In this story here that wounded guy and ambulance driver simply did not recognize situation. He was a nice guy, why would this happen to him? Back then I probably would go with ambulance as well if I was shot. It felt very wrong that this happened but was one of first wakeup calls that fair and unfair are concepts of the past.

My friend in the first place should not have been there in that time of chaos. Ambulance driver should have said ”screw it” take valuable medicines and go home at first signs of real violence and total collapse. He did not. It is easy to call him hero and maybe day before or hours before he helped save life of someone else but it was still too high risk to be out at this point in time.

It is easy to say that now, in those time we all still called things by old names, police, trust, government, law, system, penalty…
If that happened maybe day or two later my friend would have crawled and treated his wounds alone, or driver would have refused to drive, or…

Few days after that event s. hit the fan with real force, and nobody had illusions anymore that something temporary is going on or that things get back to normal.

But point is that lots of people died in that short period before realizing that things aren’t the same. You can not still believe in good of people around you, but most people did. This ambulance event was one of many that ended with similar deaths.

So next time, when some rioting erupts in your city, some violence after football game, or some protests because high unemployment or similar and you hear gunshots and screams, and words about people being killed on the streets, stores being looted, you need to hope that it is temporary disturbance but you can not trust in that.

Be suspicious, trust in your bug out bag, trust in your storage, trust in your weapon. Do not go out just “because everyone goes out”. Avoid being greedy and go looting to have a bit more, even if it sounds easy, you prepare to not have to go out.

When you realize how random and brutal nature and violence is, then you realize you do not prepare to be hero, you prepare to survive. That ambulance guy could have helped many more people in later months when we were fighting for survival if he would not have died. But back then, we did not understand situation.

If you experienced situation that reminded you that fairness and unfairness are just concepts in our “civilized” world, please share in comments.

49 responses to “True Nature of Survival”

  1. Dan says:

    I like the comment about looting. Why put yourself in danger when it’s not necessary. That’s what prepping is all about to me. Having he means at hand necessary to survive without exposing us to more danger.

  2. Isabel says:

    I AM an EMT in the back of an ambulance, and you’re right; it would be hard to recognize that things had transitioned to different “rules”. I could see myself continuing to go on runs for injured rioters. Holy Cow! This changes everything. I’d better reassess, and pay better attention.

  3. Curtis says:

    You tell it like it is Selco

  4. Elijah B. says:

    It’s interesting this article came along, as today I’ve been thinking about our civilised way of thinking. We have become so indoctrinated that we find it hard to believe that things can become as pear-shaped as Selco has described. His friend and the ambo driver just had no concept that thing could really turn out that they could be murdered pointlessly.

    But I’ve been thinking about the history of fighting, from swords to guns. Unlike Hollywood, where every kill is a clean kill and the bad guy falls down dead, most fighting must surely have a lot of woundings instead of outright deaths.

    What does one do with a wounded antagonist? In civilised times one would call the police and the paramedics. But in a land without law, or in a war, what does one do? Your enemy is perhaps screaming with pain. Does one walk away? Give medical help maybe, at the expense of your own resources and possibly endangering yourself when he recovers? Put a bullet in his head? What if he begs for mercy when he sees what you are about to do? How many of us can still kill in cold blood when he is begging for his life? Yet this may be the only way to survive in a real world situation, and it may actually be the most merciful thing to do compared to leaving him to die slowly.

    But what effect would such a shooting have on us? I’ve heard that killing someone, even in self-defense, is a life changing event and you are never the same person ever again. Post traumatic stress must be a consequence, as well the sheer reality of the blood and mess that happens when bodily integrity is violated and the insides of a man or woman or child are not inside anymore.

    The more I learn about this the more annoyed I get with people who label others as cowards because they don’t know if they can really shoot anyone. Killing may be necessary sometimes, but it should never be easy.

    These are really hard questions I don’t have easy answers to.

    I’m sorry; I hope I haven’t deflected the subject away from Selco’s article with my thoughts.

    • Sheri says:

      I know exactly how you feel. I don’t think anyone who is preparing has not thought about this on more than one occasion. I just keep the faces of my grandchildren, the one’s who will depend on my strength, in my mind.

    • Joe says:

      The sniper I wrote about in my previous post was talking about the only head shot that he had ever taken(long story on how the story came up), the reason that he took a risky head shot was that the VC sniper he had tracked back to their hut was nursing her baby at the time and he shot her in the head to spare the child. She chose to be a sniper and had killed some of his friends and would have killed more. He did his job. I disagree with compassion for an enemy, believe me they will not show you any if the places were reversed. I would show no mercy and take no prisoners. Cold but necessary. I would not waste a bullet to hasten the death of someone that would probably have no problem killing me slowly just for fun. Let them die slowly, it will send a powerful message to other scum.

      I have come to grips with the fact that when things fall apart, I may have to kill anyone including a member of my family for the rest to survive. I hope not but can foresee a situation where I may have to kill a neighbor or neighbors to protect my family. When your kids are starving you are capable of anything to help them survive. As cold as it is, if necessary and I am the one putting the group at risk then I hope my family will kill me so that they may survive. The good of the many must outweigh the good of the few. I hope that my training will kick in and I will help lead the group, including my neighborhood to safety.

      I recommend studying the history of the Mormons and the violence they faced in the US and their flight to Utah. I am not a Mormon but have known some and they give away very good information about preparing, community under distress, charity, etc gained from their past experiences.

      • sandra says:

        i am a morman and i believe that if it comes down to me and my family are others then i would have to go with my family i try to make sure i have more so that i can help out as much as i can because i believe thats what the Lord would want us to do everyone can put back alittle for others then everyone would have something and evryone around you would be helping each other because then they know they can depend on each other for help so i hope that each and everyone will put something aside for others around you ,its better to have your neighbors on your side isnt.

        • Joe says:

          I agree with you that charity is important and the Mormons that I know are very charitible, as is your church. I do now and will in the future to help my neighbors. But when things fall apart I will not hesitate to use my bias to violence against the human animals that will come out. If they include my neighbors then so be it. I do not mean to come off as an assassin or a tough guy but as Selco said when things go bad then the animals will come out.

          I have plans and supplies in place to bring my neighbors into my home for mutual protection, to share resources, to share guard duty and to help with the recovery.

          Selco’s article was about the evil that will arise when things fall apart and the need for awareness of human nature. You must wrap your head around this and prepare yourself for the new reality including having a bias to violence when needed. It is best to avoid trouble but when it comes you cannot hesitate to act, the animals will not.

    • Danette says:

      No, you haven’t. You brought up many concerns that any normal human being would have.

  5. John R says:

    In the video, I guess monkeys are just like men, we all like to eat a little piece of ass.

    • gray man says:

      Really? That’s your comment?

    • Rose says:

      John R,

      I regret but have to admit that unfortunately some humans are indeed like monkeys. For instane, you sure sound like younfit the profile. Apes like that are exactly the kind of moron everybody wants to avoid, both in life as it is now as well as in life without any order or justice.

      I recommend you rather share your pearls of wisdom with your mother. She will probably appreciate you more than anybody else.

      By the way big guy, you may think you are “big stuff” now, but I will write you a guarantee that this arrogance and core of disrespect is exactly what will make you one of the first casualties during shtf -time. That may be to the advantage of a lot of people around you.

      Arrogance, pride and mocking are commodities that no true survavivalist will ever practice or tolerate because it is too costly, fatal in fact.

      I want to say I hope you can change, but I am not very optimistic.

    • Joe says:

      You are an ignorant asshole.

    • Joe says:

      Correction to previous post. Directed at John R., you are an ignorant asshole.

    • chuck b says:

      >Joe, >Rose, >Grey Man, and any others –
      The only credibility this John R has is what you give him. If he’s not a troll, he’s not far removed. Or perhaps he’s just a guy with no social skills, trying too hard to share a humor he doesn’t possess. Regardless; It’s better to just clean your shoe in the grass and continue on your way than to chase after and berate the dog for doing what it knows no better than to do. Just “step over” the pile and continue on your/our journey without distraction, don’t bother to curse the pile in the walk-way because that detracts and distracts from Selco’s message and his attempts to share what truly is useful.

      Chuck B.

  6. Analyst says:

    In a riot (or war) zone, the “no rules” prevail. For example peopled actively participating in disturbance, have their mindset modified. Compare their mindset as a rainbow color when the less dangerous color is blue and the more extreme is red. What is the overall color-temperature of the moment? You can never say as it can switch in a matter of seconds. The bottom-line is that some rioters can attack you over your clothes or the car you drive and think that you are their enemy or just because they can unleash the hate of the people you “represent” ; you will have to face the rage then, even if you are just naively witnessing the event. It’s very animal.

  7. 2knives says:

    I feel the key to all this is to be aware of your surroundings. OPSEC is critical not when TSHTF but in the time leading up to the climax. Waiting for some sign that all has changed will get you injured or killed. Always be alert and aware of what is going on in your area. Black swans appear out of nowhere. This revolution will not be televised. Be prepared for rapid change and instantaneous decisions. Pay attention to the smallest details. Your brain is your best weapon. Keep it honed.

  8. Tim Gray says:

    The ambulance driver made a huge mistake, he stopped. He assumed that people were still civilized and he would simply have to turn around.

    And I understand why, Paramedics are taught to save lives, it is very hard for them to kill 20 by plowing through the crowd to save their own lives.

    • Selco says:

      I agree that he made mistake, but great percentage of people probably would do same mistake, it take a lot to be ready to go and kill several people by hitting them. He simply did not realize that times are changed.

  9. Matt in Oklahoma says:

    Gazelle the other other white meat!
    It should bother you somewhat to watch and animal still alive and suffering while being consumed and as a hunter we all know sometimes it aint clean but we do the right thing and finish it. It’s the difference between normal and psychopaths. Unfortunately SHTF is where psychopaths are in their element. Being normal means we have to work harder to get thru the OODA loop as to what is happening.

    man thats a big baboon

    • Malgus says:

      Not to go off subject, but try reading Pete Capstick’s work (Death in the Long Grass, Death in a Lonely Land, etc). He started out life as a Wall Street broker, made a ton of cash, then quit and went to Africa to be a white hunter. Some of his stories about baboons are pretty harrowing.

      Funny thing, as I hear tell baboons used to be herbivores until about 100 years ago or so. Ate fruits, etc. When they came into close contact with humans, they switched their diets to meat. They’re mean and vicious, too. Pete retells a story about one baboon that caught a bird. It plucked every feather off that bird, apparently for fun, then left it there to die. They have little fear of man and will attack and kill humans if they think they can get away with it (think kidnapping infants, etc). Eating something while it’s still alive? Par for the course for those things…

      A fully grown, male dog baboon goes about 90 pounds of solid muscle, has teeth about 3 inches long and is completely fearless.

      Selco:

      I did not know that things we considered verboten, like shooting at ambulances or shooting medics, well, I did not know that things were that bad for you guys…

      Every time you post something new, you surprise me… You are doing us a great service, simply by sharing your knowledge. You have probably saved many a life, but do not know it…

  10. Son of Liberty says:

    Wow, you really make the average man/woman think about things. Sorry, I couldn’t watch the video all the way through. I don’t know where that puts me when the stuff starts flying.

    I’m told I am a hard man, but as a born-again Spirit-filled Christian I have a very compassionate tender side as well (yep, I cry at sappy old movies). I just hope I don’t hesitate that split-second too long and become a statistic. I am preparing, and training, reading (and writing) about things from a biblical perspective — but I will confess all I have envisioned is just that — imagination, no personal experience lays behind it.

    I’m truly concerned, that’s why air-soft practice, shooting school classes, and a host of other preparations for this type of scenario is part of my preps. All I can say is, “God help us.” It’s coming, and will be here sooner rather than later. And I am convinced that NO MATTER how well prepared we are, we’ll never be prepared for all that we will face. It’s just not possible.

    Thanks for enlightening us, for sharing with us, for helping open our eyes. You are doing a great service. May God’s grace and blessings be yours for the valuable service.

    Blessings,

    Son of Liberty

  11. GRA says:

    I’m wondering if the ambulance driver was killed because the medical supplies in the ambulance was needed, or what? It seems like they killed the wounded guy out of simply being mean.

    • Selco says:

      No, he was killed because at that moment they felt like they could do that if you understand me ,and they probably they did not want too many witnesses.

  12. Joe says:

    We forget that people are ANIMALS!!!
    The thin veneer of civilization keeps this in check to some extent. Look at Chicago USA, murder central, Obama’s hometown and a war zone on the weekends. Just let the power go out for awhile or civilization collalapse and see what happens. Even the Occupy Movement which was supposed to be peacefull had internal violance. Rapes of female members, thieft, fights in the camps, etc. Had the police not stepped in then ith would have degraded into more chaos. Look at the Brits and Egyptians killing each other over a football/soccer game. People ONLY act civilized, but we are not. We ARE animals. As to the man that was looting, if he was taking needed food, medicine or other necessity, then I feel sorry for him. If not then he got what he deserved. Do not stick your head in a lions mouth then complain when the lion bites it off. If and when the necessity comes then I will kill with no hesitation and very little remorse. I will not go looking for trouble but will shoot first and to hell with the questions. Study society during the US great depression and look at the rise in crime, etc. I have come to grips with the fact that when the time comes I will do whatever necessary to protect me and mine( myself mostly because mine depend on me). As I once told a US Army sniper, killing the enemies of your counrty is you business and I am glad that you do it well. Business is business. Remember that even your friends and neighbors may become your enemy when things fall apart and their kids are starving. We are animals.

    Plan for the worst, assume the worst, hope for the best, then handle what comes.

  13. Daniel says:

    Selco, you think that the disturbances are seeing in Ukraine, Argentina, Venezuela and other countries are the first part of what will happen to nivl golobal soon?

    Selco, usted piensa que los disturbios que se estan viendo en Ucrania, Argentina, Venezuela y otros paises son la primera parte de lo que ocurrira a nivl golobal muy pronto?

    • Selco says:

      Disturbances like those are always here, more or less. But truth is that things are accelerate in a way, and getting on force more and more. Or things are losing their sense if you understand me. I think that we gonna see much more events like this on global scale, and somewhere there there is point after collapse may happen.

  14. steve says:

    I keep 90 days of supplies…no need for me or family to travel around..
    Have trust in your family and in 7.62×39….be able to move and adapt
    to your circumstance…living outside of Phoenix water is major concern !!

  15. Chris says:

    I can see more than a few ‘ready’ preppers also not recognizing the dangers of the early days of SHTF scenarios. It can also be somewhat difficult really to tell. A riot may be temporary, or last for a week, or even longer. A power outage can seem temporary, even if it lasts for weeks. You also have to take ‘optimism’ into account. Some people will feel SHTF in their guts, read all of this, prepare for everything, and still not fully believe the worst has come. They will have blind faith that something will turn around, and the crisis is soon over.

    I think the biggest enemy for seeing the reality of things is your own skepticism. Your desire to not believe something you don’t want to believe, even if it is very obvious from multiple signals. To truly survive, we have to see these signals, and see them quickly.

  16. barrowwight says:

    I think in a SHTF/TEOTWAWKI scenario like what Selco lived through, many people will die almost willingly when they finally accept what is really going on and they acknowledge the fact that they don’t have what it takes to survive. Nobody wants to be the gazelle, but if you know damned well you can’t fight the baboon, would you rather go through the agony of being torn apart and eaten alive or just go out on your own terms? This made me think of the scene in “28 Days Later” when the guy finds his parents’ house, and finds their bodies lying in bed holding hands with an empty bottle of sleeping pills. When people realize that no one is coming to save them from the horror, they will be left with the choice of battling through the horror (that they know they can’t deal with) or just checking out. I don’t know how many did that in the Balkan situation but based on the horrors Selco described in this blog and in his course I’d be willing to bet several did. And with as cushy and pampered as most of us are here in the States I’d wager there will be quite a few. Despair can be every bit as deadly as rage; just a bit quieter.

    • Redstone says:

      If you should decide to book out with a gun ? Please do it right. My uncle (ex-cop) was suffering with the final stage of lung cancer and decided to blow his brains out with his service revolver. I did not get the details, but he succeed in blowing out his upper spine and now paralyzed from the head down. I figure he saw too many Hollywood movies and shoved the gun in his mouth. Had he placed the gun under the fleshy part under the chin, he would hit the brain even if he slipped as pulling the trigger. My niece who is an EMT told me how many of their suicide by gun calls result in fucked up messy misses. I do not advocate suicide, nor do I condemn it either. If you must end your life. Do not do it where a loved one sees the results or witness it. And for goodness sake, do it right. You will panic in the last seconds and fight to survive (it is hard wired in us).
      I pray done of us ever be in the gazelle’s position or helplessly witness such behavior. I so wanted to kill that baboon and it’s mate and then free the gazelle of its pain with a mercy kill. I know I need to work on this before SHTF. But it will be very hard to do, as this instinct is a very big part of my DNA code.

  17. Richard von Dornier says:

    It`s simply awful to admit, but I live in a very primitive country (Brazil) disguised as a developed one… Just 2 out of every 10 crimes are solved by our corrupt police, illiteracy alone is about 20%, 60 THOUSAND people killed per year in Rio and São Paulo ALONE by firearms, strong gun control legislation preventing ONLY law abiding citizens their right to protect themselves was approved by a congress entirely sold out to drug lords! Our Socialist government led most of the former highly profitable state run companies to total bankruptcy and daily riots abound… This seems, smells and feels like a classic pre-SHTF scenario which may turn this banana republic into some Syrya soon…!

  18. ccwaters says:

    Like the first snowstorm of the season–drivers are accustomed to running along at regular speeds. This is when the most traffic disruptions occur–when people have not had a mind change from summer driving to defensive, winter driving.

    Selco–You are helpful in gearing up for events we can’t imagine ever happening. .Thank you

  19. Oldfart says:

    Forgive me as I type this from the viewpoint of an American citizen, though it might apply to others around the world too.

    This is a big country and it WILL see many instances of rioting and unrest. But due to the sheer size of the country such things won’t be everywhere. I’m sure we’re all prepared for unrest in the population centers but out in flyover country such things will be less common. Selco writes from his experiences in a major city – one under siege at that. We may have similar things happen here but I doubt it will be widespread.

    I’ve been studying our situation and have come to some other conclusions. It’s unlikely that our collapse will be as sudden as those we have seen in other countries. A huge percentage of Americans are armed and those who would bring our country down are well aware of it. They know that a sizeable percentage of the police and military will side with he people and the oligarchy will suffer significant casualties. They also know that the longer the “crisis” is drawn out, the more money they will be able to squeeze out of the people. Most of all, they know that time is on their side and the longer it takes to bring the pot to a boil, the more tender the final dish.

    Still, Selco’s experiences are valuable to those who have the bad luck to live in one of those places where the rule of law will disintegrate. Since none of us KNOW where those places will be (though we all have some pretty good guesses) it makes sense for us to study his stories and at least prepare for the worst that might happen.

    Keep up the good work Selco. You are indeed siving lives, if not now then in the future.

  20. Zack says:

    I’m a Deputy Sheriff for a small county sheriff office and I have wondered what I would do when SHTF. Like paramedics, I have a job that revolves around people and the community and are often called upon when there are issues. But what can be expected when the structure of society falls? Some people will need help but how to help them without jeopardizing yourself? Even with our small cow tow policing, we always have to be aware of our officer safety issues being that everyday that badge is worn as a shield and as a target. I have my own ideas for SHTF, understanding that plans often fail and conditions are ever fluent. When SHTF, the world wont be the same.

  21. Natty Bumppo says:

    I have seen this video before and just read this post for the 3rd time. When thinking on the ambulance, there is one thing that many forget. Over the years there have been many people in their bravado that say they will head for the local pharmacy to loot as many drugs while the masses are looting the food.

    People are to influenced by movies, thinking that the vehicle or helmet colored white with a big red cross on it is going to be respected and safe…..what a joke…..look at the recent videos of the Ukraine man under fire wearing a white hat with a red cross. Bottom line here is that ambulances have a lot of drugs on them and would be considered extremely valuable during SHTF.

    • Redstone says:

      Ambulances and pharmacies are already targets for violent robberies. EMT are now requesting the right to be armed and bullet proof vehicles that have drugs onboard. The same jack-asses who attack Emergency Medical Technicians, are the first ones to cry when no one comes to their recue. The world has lost much of its sense of right or wrong and getting worst by the day.
      The ambulance driver was not in the wrong as there was some evidence of attempts being made to restore civility. He was a victim to cold blooded murderers killed for the thrill. I am assuming here because I was not there. If he was off duty, then he was foolish. I am sure not every ambulance was attacked this vicious in the early phase of SHTF.
      A civilian is best to duck and cover. This does not mean you are weak or a coward, just you plan to survive.

  22. The Raven says:

    Was it wrong that I clicked on that while munching on a roast beef sandwich, and was hungry enough to go make another one afterwards?

    About the extent of my reaction was “that’s got to sting.”

  23. Justa Fella says:

    As I read your opinions, I’m reminded of my training in the Marine Corps, late 60s. I was taught to hold my fire until ordered to open up. Of course, in a free-fire zone, the order was given up front. Further, I was taught to be certain of my target before releasing the safety and when I’m certain and point my weapon at a man to make sure I kill him dead. “Never point your weapon at anyone unless you plan to leave him dead,” was my drill instructor’s command.

    That being said, I’m referring to a disciplines military situation. You are talking about a SHTF/incipient riot situation where you have no superior officer who is giving orders. Consider that an aggressive or violent response in a already tense situation could easily result in a huge mess with a terrible price to pay. Thus, training and consultation with trusted others is of great importance. The law of unintended consequences will bite you in the butt.

    A little story…Some years back I was part of a peace-keeping team at a large urban demonstration. As so often happens in the shifting currents and crowd movement, I became separated from my team members. As I was seeking them, I encountered an incipient riot. Eight people in a rough circle, all red-faced and screaming at each other. What could I, alone, do to intervene without feeding the fire of rage? My training to calm myself and look at options brought me into the present and to remember that I had a bag of cookies I was planning to share with my team members during a break. I approached the screaming people, holding the cookies at arm’s length into the circle, and said in a loud voice, “Anyone want a cookie?” At that moment I had no idea what might happen. I only knew that a big part of my training was nonviolent de-escalation intervention. To my surprise and joy, one person said, “Are you serious?” and plucked a cookie out of the bag. I suggested she pass it around, and as people each took a cookie, they stopped yelling, looked around as if snapping out of a trance, then wandered away. I’ve since used this technique, if you could call it that, in similar situations with the nearly same results.

    I’m aware, your mileage may vary. And indeed, next time I use this approach, my mileage may vary.

    At any rate, know that you are a blessed child of god. Whatever choice you make.

    Justa Fella

  24. mike says:

    I prepare, I watch the world, I think about what I see, I plan, I know what I must do when the time comes.

    If I fail to act when faced with aggression, I or my family may die, be mauled, raped etc…

    That is not something I will allow, now or ever…

    If you take the time to watch people in daily life, see their interactions, see the way they treat others it comes as no great surprise that human “natural” violence and behavior is only just and I mean just below the surface.

    Most humans aren’t violent because they fear punishment or retribution of some kind.

    You see the difference when retribution or return violence isn’t forthcoming towards them if they’ve done something.

    They get bold, the next time they do more, then more, then….

    Please have your principles, don’t kill for the sake of fun but when push comes to shove, you better be ready to push and shove back harder, faster and with absolute prejudice if you want to survive.

  25. Joseph says:

    Most of the drugs on ambulances are IV fluids and medications for heart/respiratory/diabetic emergencies. Not something most people would be able to use, and nothing that would get them high. In most cases, city ambulances are so close to hospitals that abuse-prone drugs are not carried; In more rural areas, many ambulances are not crewed by paramedic level EMTs who are authorized to give those drugs.

  26. Konrad Arflane says:

    A suggestion for future columns, something you’ve touched on to some extent, and probably not as bold or exciting as your usual posts, but necessary to my mind.

    I’ve read every post on this page with great interest, and gleaned a great deal of excellent info…but something I would find of interest…

    A day in the life of Selco, or a week, or a month. I’m sure with all the struggle, all the uncertainty, there were times people had what they needed for the moment, and hunkered down for bit, heads kept low, under the radar. I’m sure there were some very boring, tedious times…no more mass media to consume, movies to go see, etc. It would be interesting and educating to get an idea of what it was really like on a day to day basis…perhaps in the early uncertain days, in the times where SHTF were certain, and when there was hope that something better was coming, some return to normalcy.

    What was it like from a day to day standpoint…not just the highlights, but the tedium of dealing with life in SHTF.

    Respectfully…

  27. Madsen says:

    I’ve been an emergency and intensive care physician for about 10 years now.
    Once in a while we get severe trauma or diseases which lead to death very often.
    They may be family guys, good persons, it doesn’t matter. Death is not personal. It’s the rule of nature.
    Of course we do our best to safe those lives, but in the long run i have become very cold blood indeed.
    I would not have any problems shooting anyone to death in a survival situation. Wouldn’t even think about it.
    It’s sad but it’s reality.

  28. Johnathan EMT-I says:

    PLEASE FOR GOD’S FUCKING SAKE STOP CALLING US AMBULANCE DRIVERS. Nothing is more demeaning to our profession than being called that. We’re highly trained EMTs and Paramedics. Refer to us as such

    • Selco says:

      Sorry Johnathan, but here in this part of the world and that time there was nothing like EMT or Paramedic. There were (team):
      1.Ambulance driver (man who drive ambulance, without any medical knowledge, not even BLS or similar)
      2.Medic (4 years of nursing school, nurse- medical technician)
      3. Physician (MD)

      Those tree above were medical team who were responding to the emergency in that time. Depending of the nature of emergency whole team would respond, or just driver with medic. In hard times it was usual that just driver was “loading” wounded people and driving them to hospitals.
      In last decade maybe system changed, so now there is something like equally like EMT or Paramedic (in States),actually now here it is man with 4 years of nursing school (and maybe ACLS, BLS, PHTLS and similar European substitutes for those courses) who is medical professional (and he drives ambulance too)
      No need to be insulted

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